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The Sage Of Time Moderator Posts: 519 From:West Virginia Registered: May 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 10:57 AM Recently I've had a talk with the people over at the TRA Forums and I believe we've finally settled out our differences. In this there should be more peace here at our forums and more peace at they're forums as well. In such I am personally lifting the rule against links to Pwhirls Forum, You may link to it as you please. Jliboy's Site I will also allow.. However you must not inform people for him (Ex: Inform people of a Site Update) So Basically If someone asks for a Object you may link to his site. But If he makes a new one you can't post a new topic informing everyone of it. Please feel free to reply to this post with your comments. Signed-- The Sage Of Time ------------------ [This message has been edited by The Sage Of Time (edited 11-20-2001).] IP: Logged
Lil Kid Member Posts: 215 From:Essex, England Registered: Apr 2001 | posted 11-20-2001 11:11 AM Sage, is everything ok between us? You always tend not to speak to me. Lil' Kid ------------------ Tomb Raider Generation - http://www.burke75.freeserve.co.uk/ IP: Logged
The Sage Of Time Moderator Posts: 519 From:West Virginia Registered: May 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:14 AM What do you mean Lil' Kid? If I never speak to you it is because you never ask me anything. lol Sorry though If you feel that way.. IP: Logged
Conan the Barbarian Member Posts: 434 From:Basingstoke, Hampshire, England Registered: Aug 2001 | posted 11-20-2001 11:14 AM I think 3rd parties notifying of new wads, vehicles etc would be beneficial to other forum members and still upholding the spirit of a banning which is to denty the banned person(s) a voice in the forum. ------------------ Conan the Barbarian email: conanthebarbarian@ntlworld.com a.k.a. Ted Swippet email:tswippet@hotmail.com IP: Logged
GokuZ Member Posts: 126 From:UK Registered: Sep 2001 | posted 11-20-2001 11:21 AM Cool , I think that It was all getting a bit immature and Im glad that things can get back to the Basics LEVEL EDITING I actually resigned my membership and been removed from TRA but as long as we can help each other out when we need some guidance thats excellent 10 points for World Peace at last ( only 89,385, 290 left to go ) Good Job Sage ------------------ Toy Story on Hold Currently Working On; The Dragon Ball TR Saga Often in the Chatbox / AOL Instant Messenger Name is : GoTenchiZ IP: Logged
moose562 Member Posts: 1451 From:London, England Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:24 AM Things I don't like about this. And honesty is the best policy. quote: Originally posted by The Sage Of Time: .....I am.....lifting the rule against links to Pwhirls Forum, You may link to it as you please. Jliboy's Site I will also allow.. However you must not inform people for him. Signed-- The Sage OF Time This sounds very pretentious if you ask me Sage. I don't see why people shouldn't have been allowed to link to him in sigs without your prior permission - that sucked - especially as most arguements where between the pair of you - even before you got the title of mod. Also not allowing links to Jliboy64 sucks too. I know you had your differences, but remember, you didn't get your moderator position for nothing you know , the folks in here voted for you and to not allow them to have what they want in their sigs (within reason ) is a little bad. Especially if the links are to things that could benefit the TRLE community as a whole. Thats what I think and you may not like it, but thats my un-biased opinion. So if all arguements are lifted and all is forgiven is there any chance of my dear friend FIPS being re-instated as a member again? He has some great new objects you know [This message has been edited by moose562 (edited 11-20-2001).] IP: Logged
moose562 Member Posts: 1451 From:London, England Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:27 AM let me correct myself...... as a mod, you can decide what is acceptable and your motion here has shown your maturity. i am pleased for it IP: Logged
Data Member Posts: 811 From:Omicron Theta science colony Registered: May 2001 | posted 11-20-2001 11:30 AM I believe that my opinion on this matter, is that Mr jliboy is a very talented object creator and in respect of the TRLE community, it would be sad not to allow other members to know what is available at his site at any one time, after all, he is doing a great service to TRLE. Of course I do understand about the reason for his initial banning, however, I believe after all this time that perhaps in the interest of TRLE custom level creators, that he should be given amnesty for his past crimes, and be allowed back to post for one more chance. I would like to add that I am in no way taking Jliboys side, I just believe he has a lot to offer the TRLE Forum community. ------------------ 'ZING' is not a word that I am familiar with, however I will make an exception to 'YOINK'. IP: Logged
The Sage Of Time Moderator Posts: 519 From:West Virginia Registered: May 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:31 AM The rule against those links wasn't made by myself. It was made by the Admins and I held true to them. However as I said I am personally taking that rule down. It had nothing to do with personal feelings toward him. Flips was banned because he cussed someone out in German.. He has also made several comments such as this to other members. In reality I see what your saying as a baised opinion! You said because Flips has made great Objects he should be allowed to be a member no matter what acts he had done. That as what you said is un-fair, I really can't agree with anything you said. IP: Logged
The Sage Of Time Moderator Posts: 519 From:West Virginia Registered: May 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:35 AM Data I understand and on normal terms agree to your opinion. However Jliboy was already given a chance among warnings.. And as I said links to his site are allowed as long as a post wasn't based on nothing but a update. If someone asked for object(s) and Jliboy had them they freely could post the link to his site. This is the most fair way to keep everyone happy and still in-force the rules of Banning. IP: Logged
Data Member Posts: 811 From:Omicron Theta science colony Registered: May 2001 | posted 11-20-2001 11:37 AM I still believe He should get another chance, after all, it has been a long time since he was banned. ------------------ 'ZING' is not a word that I am familiar with, however I will make an exception to 'YOINK'. IP: Logged
The Sage Of Time Moderator Posts: 519 From:West Virginia Registered: May 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:38 AM That is not up to me as I have no control over such. That is in the hands of the Admins.. IP: Logged
moose562 Member Posts: 1451 From:London, England Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:39 AM For the attention of Sage... quote: Originally posted by Data: I believe that my opinion on this matter, is that Mr jliboy is a very talented object creator and in respect of the TRLE community.....however, I believe after all this time that perhaps in the interest of TRLE custom level creators, that he should be given amnesty for his past crimes, and be allowed back to post for one more chance. Why should Jliboy64 be allowed back into the forum and Fips dismissed? Fips is just as talented and I am sure if given a second chance, like the man in question, wouldn't over step the mark again. I know you said that fips was insulting people, but weren't the jibes you yourself recieved from jliboy and all at the TRA forums just as upsetting. I sure felt that. If Jliboy is allowed to return, that makes a mockery of the whole banning system if the authority of the forums is to be upheld. So why should one be allowed back after banning and another not? No matter what their initial "crime" they were still banned. I have nothing against Jliboy, although I know sage was upset by his comments in the past. I am trying to remain neutral, but if you are going to offer "amnesty" as Data so rightly put it, then shouldn't this be offered to all ex-members.....and there are a few.... sage, dont be offended please [This message has been edited by moose562 (edited 11-20-2001).] IP: Logged
The Sage Of Time Moderator Posts: 519 From:West Virginia Registered: May 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:43 AM Moose your missing the point here.. No one said Jliboy was to be un-banned. In fact chances are he never will be. Although I have no control over such either way. Ahem.. Anyway Flips cuased trouble so he was banned it's that simple. Oh yes and Moose please try and stay on topic.. This is about the forum returning to peace.. Not comments on why Flips was banned.. IP: Logged
moose562 Member Posts: 1451 From:London, England Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:47 AM quote: Originally posted by The Sage Of Time: I understand and on normal terms agree to your opinion. However Jliboy was already given a chance among warnings.. And as I said links to his site are allowed as long as a post wasn't based on nothing but a update. If someone asked for object(s) and Jliboy had them they freely could post the link to his site. This is the most fair way to keep everyone happy and still in-force the rules of Banning. I think you should have shown us the full picture before you posted. how are we supposed to know what admin told you if you dont tell us? when your posts suggest something happening in the community, and we reply to them, in "reality" we are not getting the full picture - which results in this thread becoming a flame war, which i think it is in danger of becoming. now that you have added more info to your thread, most comments seem pointless now. dont you agree? i see it as you are saying its not your fault he got banned. thats in the hands of the admin. i accept that, but your post seemed to suggest otherwise. can you get my angle sage? IP: Logged
moose562 Member Posts: 1451 From:London, England Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:51 AM i think you should delete the last few posts you made, and add the details you put in them into your original. that way any replies you get wont become distorted in the way it obviously has become now. IP: Logged
moose562 Member Posts: 1451 From:London, England Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:53 AM you may consider my replys "off-topic" but i was making a comparison between the case of fips and jliboy as presented in this post. as you said, "Please feel free to reply to this post with your comments". IP: Logged
The Sage Of Time Moderator Posts: 519 From:West Virginia Registered: May 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:54 AM Well in certain case's the admins recommend we not to tell you of some things.. It can cause a stir so it doesn't get told till it can be looked at safely.. Anyway, This post was to inform you all that the fighting is over and links may now be used again. All and all If there is something big like un-banning you wish to talk about it's best to do so with the Admins.. This post is for mild comments and just to get your opinions out. So far that seems to be working! IP: Logged
moose562 Member Posts: 1451 From:London, England Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:57 AM And it looks like it is!! well you have suceeded in one thing!! oh and where fips is concerned, i was only defending a friend, as i would do you if the ocassion arose. oh, and why are you blanking me on MSN?! IP: Logged
moose562 Member Posts: 1451 From:London, England Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:58 AM Sage, let me point this little reply out to you. It must have been overlooked amongst all the fracas quote: Originally posted by moose562: let me correct myself...... as a mod, you can decide what is acceptable and your motion here has shown your maturity. i [b]am pleased for it[/B] IP: Logged
The Sage Of Time Moderator Posts: 519 From:West Virginia Registered: May 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 11:59 AM Quite alright Moose that's what this post is for. And Sorry about MSN i'm a little busy with something.. IP: Logged
moose562 Member Posts: 1451 From:London, England Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 12:08 PM oh cool, i thought you hated me IP: Logged
Kiopo Member Posts: 966 From:Liverpool, UK Registered: Jul 2001 | posted 11-20-2001 12:34 PM quote: Originally posted by The Sage Of Time: Recently I've had a talk with the people over at the TRA Forums and I believe we've finally settled out our differences. In this there should be more peace here at our forums and more peace at they're forums as well. In such I am personally lifting the rule against links to Pwhirls Forum, You may link to it as you please. Jliboy's Site I will also allow.. However you must not inform people for him (Ex: Inform people of a Site Update) So Basically If someone asks for a Object you may link to his site. But If he makes a new one you can't post a new topic informing everyone of it. Please feel free to reply to this post with your comments. Signed-- The Sage Of Time You mean that people weren't allowed to link to his site?? Lol, come on be real, this isn't alcatraz ya know Oh yeah and if somone asks for an object and Jasons made one, I would so tell them and link it. It's the whole point of the forum, you know, to help people. Oh and also Jason should be unbanned as he THE greatest object creator, I don't think anyone will argue that. Lighten up man, Kiopo IP: Logged
Kiopo Member Posts: 966 From:Liverpool, UK Registered: Jul 2001 | posted 11-20-2001 12:38 PM quote: Originally posted by Data: I would like to add that I am in no way taking Jliboys side, I just believe he has a lot to offer the TRLE Forum community. Yeah well I am taking his side. Sorry but it was a long time ago and he could help a lot of people. Kiopo IP: Logged
Data Member Posts: 811 From:Omicron Theta science colony Registered: May 2001 | posted 11-20-2001 01:44 PM Let us not all forget that we cannot have any unruly behaviour at these or any forums come to that. Anyone banned for whatever reason, should pay the price for their behaviour, however, I firmly believe that all those whom have been banned in the past should be offered amnesty if they would like to accept it. This is a community and as a community we (all members) should forgive the past of those that were banned. They should all be allowed back in on a trial period. They all have something to offer this community and even though a moderator does not have the power to reinstate anyone, you can indeed recommend to Mr GM about an idea of an amnesty. I am sorry if I have offended anyone, and as a neutral member, I believe this should be reconsidered. IP: Logged
craziej2k Member Posts: 96 From:in front of my PC Registered: May 2001 | posted 11-20-2001 01:58 PM I agree with Data they should be let back in for a trial period. I don't know exactly what they did but it can't be THAT bad. Crazie J ------------------ If ingnorance is bliss I'm in heaven!!! IP: Logged
Seth Member Posts: 1138 From:Phoenix, Arizona Registered: May 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 03:11 PM quote: Originally posted by The Sage Of Time: I believe we've finally settled out our differences. Thanx to me! (Sorry, but I looooooooooooooooove attention!) IP: Logged
moose562 Member Posts: 1451 From:London, England Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 11-20-2001 03:26 PM quote: Originally posted by Data: I am sorry if I have offended anyone, and as a neutral member, I believe this should be reconsidered. Oh I hope you didn't think I was offended!! I just used your sense to explain my angle!! I hope I didn't offend you!! :O sorry!! IP: Logged
Ultimate.Reality Member Posts: 63 From:brahman Registered: Oct 2001 | posted 11-20-2001 04:09 PM sigh, i thought we reached an agreement, sage, no more mentioning of arguments? in opening this post, you were risking starting a fight...... IP: Logged
Kiopo Member Posts: 966 From:Liverpool, UK Registered: Jul 2001 | posted 11-21-2001 11:50 AM Lol, a good idea would be to not say anything eh sage?? Ultimate. Reality is right, whats the point in starting an end of argument post that'll start another argument?? Oh and also when did the mods decide what the forum policy on banned members and linking to their sites was?? I thought that that was the job for the admins. Anyway, i reckon a review of unbanning banned members if they wanna come back is in order, particularly for jliboy64 (65 and 100 ). Kiopo [This message has been edited by Kiopo (edited 11-21-2001).] IP: Logged
The Sage Of Time Moderator Posts: 519 From:West Virginia Registered: May 2000 | posted 11-21-2001 12:08 PM Actually Ultimate.Reality I would have thought you of all people would like having Jli'd site allowed to be posted here. This was to show the arguement is over.. But It doesn't seem anyone would like to look at it that way. IP: Logged
Ultimate.Reality Member Posts: 63 From:brahman Registered: Oct 2001 | posted 11-21-2001 12:57 PM sage, i appreciate your way of letting people know the fight is in its peace period. and im glad about the allowing of the links....etc but i think it's wise to close this topic, so there would be no more fights....etc IP: Logged
The Sage Of Time Moderator Posts: 519 From:West Virginia Registered: May 2000 | posted 11-21-2001 01:41 PM Yes I was thinking this myself.. At least most of you got to comment on this. ~Topic Closed~ Signed-- The Sage Of Time IP: Logged

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