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Alarable Junior Member Posts: 28 From: Registered: Feb 2001 | posted 12-04-2001 07:12 AM I've play the TR series so many times now I could do it blindfolded. Just installed the Level Editor and wanted to know where I might find an articulate tutorial???? Also where to download some of the better homemade levels. It looks like great fun and would probably keep me content until the next TR release. Please help me out, the documentaion that comes with the LE makes my brain hurt. IP: Logged
Driber_IF Moderator Posts: 1644 From:Den Haag, The Netherlands Registered: Apr 2001 | posted 12-04-2001 07:19 AM hi Alarable, I know the manual looks stressful, but I highly recommend you at least do the tutorial in the manual, it learns you all the basics of the LE as for top notch levels, check out the top 10 at www.mprager.de ------------------ allright zip it! ziiiiiiiiiiiiip! The road leading to your goal can be a long one and bumpy at some times. But you might just pickup a few hitch hickers along the way that stay in your car for the rest of your life. IP: Logged
qbg Member Posts: 86 From:Newtown, Powys, Wales Registered: Nov 2001 | posted 12-04-2001 08:52 AM Once you get the hang of it, you may want to create new objects, copy an object from one file to another, or create new textures of your own. Go to http://network.tombraiderchronicles.com/jliboy64/index.html for some decent tools. IP: Logged
dhama Member Posts: 836 From:Tibet Registered: Apr 2001 | posted 12-04-2001 09:47 AM OK, the best way in my opinion is to open the Level editor application. Now repeat, so that you now have two level editors running. Use one of them to build your level and the other to load in a map from C:\Program Files\Core Design\trle\maps that corresponds with the name of the object file (wad) that you are using for your project i.e city.wad (your object file) and city.prj + city.tga (the ready built level). Using this technique, you can look at how the original city level was built whilst building your own. Of course, you will have to read the manual at some point, and we have all done so. Just enjoy yourself, or you will end up pulling your hair out ------------------ Lara Buddha by T.L.F. Click on pic for custom levels inc Tower Bridge 2 IP: Logged
Alarable Junior Member Posts: 28 From: Registered: Feb 2001 | posted 12-04-2001 03:45 PM Thanks for the input. I did take a peek at the manual, but I was hoping to find something like, "Level Editor for Dummies," on the net. I guess I'll just suck it up and get on with it, but I'm tellin' ya, my head nearly exploded when I saw that flow chart. Thanks again. IP: Logged
GokuZ Member Posts: 211 From:UK Registered: Sep 2001 | posted 12-04-2001 04:01 PM Dont worry Im really stupid (just ask Driber_IF, or Tommy Tomb Raider) and now im re-meshing/drawing Lara , the best piece of advice i can give you is print out the Manual (100 pages I know but WELL worth it) Welcome to the Fourm ! and visit the Chatbox (link at the top of the page) and meet the guys and gals ------------------ Toy Story on Hold Currently Working On; The Dragon Ball TR Saga Often in the Chatbox / AOL Instant Messenger Name is : GoTenchiZ , MSN ; Gokuz99@hotmail.com IP: Logged
Driber_IF Moderator Posts: 1644 From:Den Haag, The Netherlands Registered: Apr 2001 | posted 12-04-2001 05:01 PM quote: Originally posted by GokuZ: Dont worry Im really stupid (just ask Driber_IF, or Tommy Tomb Raider) I agree but don't worry yourself with the flowchart, Alarable I've never used it before myself, did the entire tutorial and I turned out to remain sane (well, give or take a few million dead braincells ) just take the tutorial one page at a time! [This message has been edited by Driber_IF (edited 12-04-2001).] IP: Logged
trlestuff Member Posts: 475 From:oregon Registered: Jul 2001 | posted 12-04-2001 08:27 PM i have custom objects here http://trlestuff.geckokid.com ------------------ Enter Tomb Raider Level Editor Stuff Please Vote For My Site KILL THE DUCKIES IP: Logged
GokuZ Member Posts: 211 From:UK Registered: Sep 2001 | posted 12-05-2001 05:09 PM I just thought of another good tip ; use squared paper to plan your levels, it is so much better than just designing the level as you go and if you want to plan things vertically like a rounded roof draw a semi-circle on the squared paper and put lines through the squares (which represent 2 clicks high) I did this recently and it really works well. I think that even the experienced level designers would agree this is a goood idea Another good tip from the people at ReeceZ Co IP: Logged
Rascalius Member Posts: 71 From:Singapore Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 12-05-2001 05:14 PM My advice is GIVE UP WHILE YOU'RE STILL SANE!! Welcome aboard dude. IP: Logged
Ultimate.Reality Member Posts: 186 From:brahman Registered: Oct 2001 | posted 12-05-2001 05:21 PM ok, object making is not as important as level design, you g2 remember that....the best levels out there are not with custom objects...but with good gameplay and design if you want custom objects, JCO-Jliboy's Custom Objects is the best place for that with 15 wads, 45+outfits, and much more.... so check it out if you want, but i suggest you get into trle for at least 3 months then do custom object stuff ------------------ Jliboy's Custom Objects-14 custom wads....45 outfits.....and counting ;) pwhirl's TRA forums-take your orders of custom objects you want here! IP: Logged
Alarable Junior Member Posts: 28 From: Registered: Feb 2001 | posted 12-06-2001 03:41 AM Thanks for the continued advice. I'm going to need your guidance for at least six months. I have a new found admiration for all of you who have mastered level editing. Just to feel familiar with the Editor before actually creating, I downloaded a level (Blue Sphere) and managed to do the conversion thing as well as the renaming files and finally playing it. Also got a program called Strpix3 and am having a grand old time modifying the wad. What I am not sure about is are there only a set number(names) of these WAD and TOM files that arw useable? Will I always have to title my creations by one of the existing filrnames? And as for "Getting OUT While I'm Still Sane." - It was too late for that years ago. Thank You All for your continued support and encouragement. Hugs & Kisses for Everyone. IP: Logged
Driber_IF Moderator Posts: 1644 From:Den Haag, The Netherlands Registered: Apr 2001 | posted 12-06-2001 04:14 AM quote: Originally posted by GokuZ: I just thought of another good tip ; use squared paper to plan your levels, it is so much better than just designing the level as you go and if you want to plan things vertically like a rounded roof draw a semi-circle on the squared paper and put lines through the squares (which represent 2 clicks high) I did this recently and it really works well. I think that even the experienced level designers would agree this is a goood idea Another good tip from the people at ReeceZ Co I agree (again) with Reece, planning your level really helps, before I got the LE, I already had some plans drawn out on paper in a 3 dimentional view and by that I build my level, which is now known as Underground Tomb Of Ramses so scetch, scetch, scetch! quote: Originally posted by Alarable: Thanks for the continued advice. I'm going to need your guidance for at least six months. that's what we're here for What I am not sure about is are there only a set number(names) of these WAD and TOM files that arw useable? Will I always have to title my creations by one of the existing filrnames? no, there is a wonderfull program called TRwest (download link on the TRLE FAQ and community page at the top of this page) which allows you to add/replace objects in a wad you can also copy an existing wad, rename it to your liking and adjust it with TRwest IP: Logged
Alarable Junior Member Posts: 28 From: Registered: Feb 2001 | posted 12-06-2001 04:56 AM WADS UUUUUUP!!!!! OK, don't hate me for writing that. I've got a little sleep dep going on. I got the TRwest program. Will poke around with it later. Squared paper- you mean a quadrille pad. I have plenty of 'em. I even have a large one that is like a white board. I can use it over and over and over. I use them for designing fonts, cross-stitch and the very important Lode Runner Levels. I'll try not to be too annoying in my apprentice phase. I do appreciate your help. IP: Logged
scorpion89 Member Posts: 49 From: Registered: Nov 2001 | posted 12-06-2001 04:16 PM welcome to TRLE! if you would like some custome wads from the TR series I can make some for you! IP: Logged
qbg Member Posts: 86 From:Newtown, Powys, Wales Registered: Nov 2001 | posted 12-07-2001 09:10 AM quote: originally posted by Alarable WADS UUUUUUP!!!!! OK, don't hate me for writing that. I've got a little sleep dep going on I can tell. TRWest is useful, but it doesn't tell you what objects are required to make lara use a crowbar switch. Sorry. I'm still annoyed with the fact I have to start my object placements all over again JUST because of a stupid switch. [This message has been edited by qbg (edited 12-07-2001).] IP: Logged

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