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piega Member Posts: 450 From:Netherlands Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 02-12-2002 01:50 PM These are screenshots from level 3 out of 5. 2 are done, 3 to go IP: Logged
Suzie Croft Member Posts: 299 From:nowhere you wanna know about Registered: Jul 2001 | posted 02-12-2002 01:58 PM *woah* ------------------ IP: Logged
Lara's Soul Member Posts: 253 From:Athens, Greece Registered: Dec 2001 | posted 02-12-2002 02:18 PM Very beautifull, piega! Continue and I would like you to use a custom outfit becuse it adds something new to Lara. Do the others agree? IP: Logged
Data Moderator Posts: 1363 From:Omicron Theta science colony Registered: May 2001 | posted 02-12-2002 02:46 PM Looking very nice as usual, master. ------------------ Learn to respond, not react IP: Logged
Tomb_Raider_Nut Member Posts: 903 From:Millwaukee,Wi,USA Registered: Jun 2001 | posted 02-12-2002 02:52 PM That looks amazing!!! ------------------ Visit my site! Sign my guestbook! Toothy Smiley Group Member #4~ "Founded by hteS" IP: Logged
The_Tomb_RaidR Member Posts: 641 From:Pittsburgh, Pa, USA Registered: Apr 2001 | posted 02-12-2002 07:42 PM looks cool (pun intended :P) IP: Logged
Tomb_Raider_Nut Member Posts: 903 From:Millwaukee,Wi,USA Registered: Jun 2001 | posted 02-12-2002 07:53 PM ha, ha, ha IP: Logged
hteS Member Posts: 855 From: Behind you Registered: Aug 2001 | posted 02-13-2002 12:23 AM Beyond incredible. ------------------ Coming soon - Discussion Domain - a whole new community... IP: Logged
Yasin Member Posts: 270 From:Netherlands Registered: Jan 2002 | posted 02-13-2002 01:30 AM I dont know what happened, but when i saw the screenshots my eyes almost explode. BEAUTIFULL... btw Piega, you sure do have a great taste for athmosphere, everything looks so real. ------------------ The best thing and last thing is to try ( ^_^ )=b IP: Logged
Driber_IF Moderator Posts: 2815 From:Den Haag, The Netherlands Registered: Apr 2001 | posted 02-13-2002 01:56 AM /me gasps for air.....woah ------------------ Driber's Homepage | TRLE Chatbox | TRLE FAQ and Community | Objects Archive IP: Logged
John. Lincoln Member Posts: 1065 From:england uk Registered: Oct 2001 | posted 02-13-2002 05:12 AM O.M.G WOT COOL LEVEL!! O.M.G [This message has been edited by John. Lincoln (edited 02-13-2002).] IP: Logged
piega Member Posts: 450 From:Netherlands Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 02-13-2002 07:24 AM Wow, wat much and great compliments i get, thank you Lara's Soul; I would like to add a new outfit for Lara but it is very difficult to use one. I have an outfit from tr2 from the snow levels. But Lara will also go into the sanctuary of fire and it woud not fit. Therefore i must have an regular outfit that match all type of levels in my adventure. I have not found it yet. Another thing, i used the Karnak wad to start all wads. Therefore the skin joints can not be replaced because of the sixshooter animation that depends on it. IP: Logged
KrisGR Member Posts: 502 From:Athens-Greece Registered: Oct 2001 | posted 02-13-2002 08:42 AM Beautiful,i think i am going to love this one more than i loved "Last Crusade". IP: Logged
Astakhov Oleg Member Posts: 421 From:Riga, Latvia Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 02-13-2002 09:52 AM Piega, I've never been so impressed by a screenshot !!! A really good work. I think you've outdone yourself .This screenshot (2nd) has got to participate in the screenshot contest! Good luck in your further work !!! ------------------ Oleg IP: Logged
eTux Member Posts: 525 From:Valmiera, Latvia Registered: Jan 2002 | posted 02-13-2002 10:11 AM Very, very impressive!!! If The Last Crusade was impressive, the screens fro these are breath-taking! IP: Logged
[Daniel] Member Posts: 68 From:Bad Aibling, Bavaria, Germany Registered: Nov 2001 | posted 02-13-2002 11:07 AM shame on you! We can stop building our levels, because nobody will play them when you have released your level fantastic! IP: Logged
just/n Member Posts: 119 From:CT, USA Registered: Jan 2002 | posted 02-13-2002 08:10 PM You know Piega you're the only editor I'm honestly jealous of IP: Logged
fairchild Member Posts: 96 From: Registered: Jan 2001 | posted 02-13-2002 09:20 PM Piega- this is magical! you create the best TombRaider designs ... & we want to *Explore* them - (yay!) thanks for keeping the dream alive, the Vagrant IP: Logged
Verner fon Croy Member Posts: 52 From: Registered: Aug 2001 | posted 02-14-2002 08:14 AM Not very impressed... bad objects and the floor texture outside in first screen is horrible! change it! it isn't Area 51!! Nice lights and textures.. Verner [This message has been edited by Verner fon Croy (edited 02-14-2002).] IP: Logged
piega Member Posts: 450 From:Netherlands Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 02-14-2002 08:43 AM You dont impress me. One against 17 Verner. Besides, the floor texture is from Chronicles It's alright, you may have your own opinion. I dont change a tile [This message has been edited by piega (edited 02-14-2002).] [This message has been edited by piega (edited 02-14-2002).] IP: Logged
zaher0001 Member Posts: 174 From:SYRIA-HOMS Registered: Sep 2001 | posted 02-14-2002 10:01 AM Hi okay very good the lights,textures and the geometry... but the objects are not compatible with your level...I think that you have to change them it is the truth only....great work zaher Abbas IP: Logged
Verios Member Posts: 437 From:Edmoton, Alberta, Canada Registered: Jun 2001 | posted 02-14-2002 10:44 AM Desipte what Verner says, Id have to say that your are the best TR Level creator out there, your levels are Core-Design quality and they are always fun to play. Keep up the good work Piega, The Number 1 Level Editor! IP: Logged
qbg Member Posts: 456 From:Newtown, Powys, Wales Registered: Nov 2001 | posted 02-14-2002 12:23 PM That looks very nice. Very atmospheric. ------------------ IP: Logged
beetleboy Member Posts: 79 From: Registered: Feb 2001 | posted 02-14-2002 03:01 PM I'm in agreement with Verner on this one but not totally for the same reasons. The cemetery outside the first pic doesn't fit the building and the gold pots in the second screen don't suit the theme. Although the lighting is well done. IP: Logged
TRoosevelt_26 Member Posts: 658 From:Dig Site KV5, Valley of the Kings, Egypt Registered: Dec 2001 | posted 02-14-2002 03:16 PM To be perfectly honest, the sand outside the building in the first shot really doesn't seem to fit, and the horizon (I think) could be grayer. And in the second shot, the gold pots stand out like a sore thumb, detracting from what has to be (no! is, without question) the best building I've ever seen in a custom level. The inside of the cathedral (?) is a masterpiece - it looks like something Core would come up with. Good luck with the last three levels! IP: Logged
just/n Member Posts: 119 From:CT, USA Registered: Jan 2002 | posted 02-14-2002 07:50 PM Well I still think it's incredible, the snow fits perfectly, especially with the choice of lighting. The gold pots are flashy, but the windows are what grab my attention All that needs to be done is to darken the pots. [This message has been edited by just/n (edited 02-16-2002).] IP: Logged
G.Croft Member Posts: 135 From:Stockholm, Sweden Registered: May 2001 | posted 02-14-2002 11:04 PM I too think it looks great! And BTW isnīt it snow???? Outside I mean - The name of the level is Sanctuary of Ice. IP: Logged
psiko Member Posts: 1000 From:unconsciousness Registered: Mar 2001 | posted 02-15-2002 12:57 AM quote: Originally posted by Verios: Desipte what Verner says, Id have to say that your are the best TR Level creator out there, your levels are Core-Design quality and they are always fun to play. Keep up the good work Piega, The Number 1 Level Editor! I completely agree! That's why he uses Core Design textures and objects without doing anything by himself! It is to reach their quality! Good applications of Core Design work! Well, I mean good application of some other professionist's work BTW, an architectural suggestion: when you use textures which imitate decorations, (for example in the walls) it is more appealing and "correct" to use a "not so decotated material" for the floors and the ceiling... or viceversa, sure... It is because two "heavy themes" of textures fight one each other... Well, you can chose among more than 1000 official textures, I think it is easy to find your way in this sense... IP: Logged
[Daniel] Member Posts: 68 From:Bad Aibling, Bavaria, Germany Registered: Nov 2001 | posted 02-15-2002 08:34 AM well psiko, not everyone has the possibilities or the talent for designing custom objects, textures or anything like that. I think, it is not fair if you rate (as said at michaels forum) a level built without any custom things not higher as a 4. You play levels to have fun, and fun consists mostly of gameplay and not if all the things are custom ore not. If they are selfmade and look good, great! If they are selfmade and look not so good, it isnīt that bad. Youīve tried it and the next time youīll use core designs objects again. Levels made with the wads from the le CD can be as good as levels built only with own objects like you COTW. Remember that! If piega wants to use cores textures (like almost all level authors), then I think itīs the right decision , but not a reason to rate a level no higher as 4 (I know, this post is more an answer to a post at mprager.de than an answer at this topic, but I think, itīs the right topic to post such things ) cu daniel IP: Logged
the_last_frustration Member Posts: 2977 From: Northern Ireland Registered: Mar 2001 | posted 02-15-2002 09:56 AM Ignore what the others say, I like the sand (may I call it grit? ). Anyway, the level looks fantastic, I can't wait to play it! IP: Logged
Suzie Croft Member Posts: 299 From:nowhere you wanna know about Registered: Jul 2001 | posted 02-15-2002 11:17 AM I think the stuff outside the church/cathedral is actually snow?? ------------------ IP: Logged
Mulf Member Posts: 161 From: Registered: May 2001 | posted 02-15-2002 11:25 AM Yes, it is snow, for the grace of god!! They are from TR3 Antarctica. I should know, I've been working with them for the past half year, lol. IP: Logged
fairchild Member Posts: 96 From: Registered: Jan 2001 | posted 02-15-2002 07:58 PM Piega, some thoughts about your "Ice" level screens--- & the comments it generated... first off- Verner,take a flying f*** - where are Your great levels to be seen? (i thought so...) secondly, you were sermonized to by a gentleman about "mixing heavy textures" with viewer *focal point* graphics... i say, your screenshots prove to me he's -wrong- in his assumption; perhaps he's still thinking of his own level projects? keep doing what you're doing, it looks good to me-- Vagrant IP: Logged
psiko Member Posts: 1000 From:unconsciousness Registered: Mar 2001 | posted 02-15-2002 10:39 PM @ Daniel, you are mixing two things: that was done to prove that that system was really easy to crack, and infact those fake reviews were taken easily away. So until now, I haven't reviewed anything, expecially 4/10. Then about what I said here: after more than an year those levels he presented here are going to be his 10th level (or I don't know which number). I think that after an year of his building levels, he is simply showing three columns with a glass. The rest is not his. I am not talking about what I do, and people are trying to do a debate. Instead, if we want to do a clever discussion, I think that after an year, an internation LD like piega (like it was said by someone else ) should try to wait and stay quiet for a month without doing levels and to learn a little bit of Photoshop. That is NOT hard. How can you combine the sentence: "you are the 1st LD in the world" and this other one: "not all are able to build their custom textures"? Are you saying that a "not able" is the first in the world after more than an year in building levels? If we want to make a clever discussion to how improve (even with ugly textures in the beginning) our levels, I am available. As I said to private emails to piega, I was (and I still am), available to build a new Lara to him, and in our Italian forum I am giving some good tips on how to use Photoshop. If I was that bad like some of you think, I could build my levels without doing anything and showing such a care. So, if people are "not able" like you say, Daniel, they can simply ask, because, maybe I am able to use Photoshop (and maybe not that talented while using it, for some of you) but I can help talented people to go over the technical stuff, and this is what I am already doing in our Italian forum like here: http://www.videogame.it/forum/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000451.html Then I can be very hafetul in the way I use to talk and give suggestions, but I don't think I am that wrong. About the architectural suggestion I gave before, if you use classical ambientations, you should use classical ideas and themes for the composition, or you get confusing things like putting gothic, celthic, roman, greek, medieval textures in the same room. If you are thinking about what I build, I build with contemporary ideas of composition which are NOT for the decorations but for different materials used for different volumes of spaces. his is why often in my work you see completely "fighting themes" in two next perpendicular walls. This is a "modern" way of considering the composition. And then I actually invented the "technorganic style". Instead than to "judge" how I say my suggestions, I hope all of you will start to ask why I say them, and "what is the solution" I suggest, instead to close topic like this happened in other forums. (And as that topic was closed before anyone asked me "psiko, at least, what you suggest for a better rating?", I explained all my ideas -I was going to tell Michael- to another site and they liked them such in a way that they decided to realize them really happily). IP: Logged
just/n Member Posts: 119 From:CT, USA Registered: Jan 2002 | posted 02-16-2002 10:45 AM Well I for one am impressed people like Piega can create such levels using "basic" objects/textures. It's something I can't seem to do [This message has been edited by just/n (edited 02-16-2002).] IP: Logged

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