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FZ Member Posts: 37 From:Anzio, ROME Italy Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 07-18-2001 01:56 PM Hi! I'm a TR fan from Eidos Forum! I've a W2000 STRANGE problem and I don't how delete it! I''ve searched for W2000 strings in the search window...but I'm only with this problem! I've installed TRle in W2000, before I've used W98..now I've delete all disk and reinstalled on Ntfs partition W2000 I can use Trle, make dat..and PLAY level... ..BUT only DEFAULT LEVEL! If I make a level..also only a room from catacomb.wad (for example) during the loading the game back in desktop! WHY?? I can play original default levels from Trle..but I can't use my wad ..and default wad (i.e. catacomb...but also coastal..etc etc etc) The scripts are correct..I can make them..and I've used also for my level default scripts..with default level..a room for catacomb ..NO personal objects.. W2000 is patched by Service Pack 2 and I've installed DirectX 8.0!!!!!! My friend use W2000 and make/play every level! NO loading error! And , I repeat, I've NO changed or corrupted wad or dat files...UFF!! PLEASE! HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IP: Logged
Emma P Moderator Posts: 405 From:Suffolk, England Registered: Apr 2001 | posted 07-18-2001 09:11 PM I know this is probably the first thing you thought of, but when you make your own levels you are adding the load camera co ordinates aren't you? Because that would explain why it's crashing back to desk top. [This message has been edited by Emma P (edited 07-18-2001).] IP: Logged
FZ Member Posts: 37 From:Anzio, ROME Italy Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 07-19-2001 12:08 AM Sorry Emma, but the level crash in the first loading... Here appear the "Title camera" ..NOT the own level camera...isnt' this problem! And I'm not a newbie! It's something of very strange...default level yes..personal ..NOT! IP: Logged
psiko Member Posts: 454 From:Rome Registered: Mar 2001 | posted 07-19-2001 05:00 AM I don't know NT technology, but I read somewhere that it is not supported adeguately the DOS. So, as you have a partition, try to have a SO with a good working DOS, like infact win98. Then try this two things: build in that partition the DAT with the script batch. If this does not work, then try to build them manually. hope this helps ------------------ | |--->> psiko <<---| | DOWNLOAD the TECHNOEGYPTIANS PORTAL http://tombraider.videogame.it/giochi/trle/livelli/tep.zip LAST UPDATE on june 18th. IP: Logged
FZ Member Posts: 37 From:Anzio, ROME Italy Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 07-19-2001 06:38 AM No, it's not a Dos problem...Dos is supported so good installing SP2.. I know how the editor works..but when I play a defaul level..all it's ok..also if I make a room with a normal wad..make it as a level and I change the script ...the script now is NEW and good builted..the level is loading..BUT after one second of load..Tr4 crash and back in the desktop. Strange. There is lara..the wad is perfectly the same when I install Trle, in C:\ and not in other part of the partition.. Many people use W2000 and Trle..I don't know if is something of the program ..or W2000 Maybe .. It's not a problem...but NOW I can't change OS! ...or ADD a new only because a program doesn't start as many people! I must try many solution... BUT if somebody know something about it..please! Help me! It's tremendous.... IP: Logged
psiko Member Posts: 454 From:Rome Registered: Mar 2001 | posted 07-19-2001 10:43 AM so the game crashes WHILE loading???? this means after some lines of charging? if it is in this way, it is a matter of the WAD. And reason can be very several. Anyhow, try to build a wad from the beginning, even one useless wad, only to test if it works. If yes, it is a problem of the wad you are using.... then, simply create a cd with your wad and prj and tga, and try to build the script and the level in a computer of some friend of yours who have win2000. If there it works, maybe it is a matter of what you have installed in yours.... if it still do not work there, it is surely a matter of the wad... Then try this thing. You surely have used some puzzles from the TR4, for example COASTAL. Well, and your level is called "mylevel" but it is with objects from other wads.... if the puzzles are from coastal and you have NOT added some animatings requiring a script line, simply try this: use the OFFICIAL script. Rename the mylevel.tr4 as coastal.tr4 So if the game does crash still, you surely know that it is NOT a matter of the script, but of the wad.... and then, try to NOT use objects from different TR games cracked with tr2wad or wadmerger..... The problem (if it is the wad) is that while loading the level, the games is preparing the objects list which it is going to show you. This means that if the wad has too many objects, the game crashes. And it can crash for several reasons, even if you edited an object with the CAD but something is wrong. The same object in a wad is working as in another wad is not.... I simply tryed it.... Simply find a balance in the wad. ------------------ | |--->> psiko <<---| | DOWNLOAD the TECHNOEGYPTIANS PORTAL http://tombraider.videogame.it/giochi/trle/livelli/tep.zip LAST UPDATE on june 18th. IP: Logged
psiko Member Posts: 454 From:Rome Registered: Mar 2001 | posted 07-19-2001 10:53 AM oh, let me know if this helped... if you have custom objects, be sure they have not more than 200 (or 250? I don't remember) polygons.... BUT if you stay round 170/180 it is REALLY better..... well, this is the number I would suggest anyone.... ------------------ | |--->> psiko <<---| | DOWNLOAD the TECHNOEGYPTIANS PORTAL http://tombraider.videogame.it/giochi/trle/livelli/tep.zip LAST UPDATE on june 18th. IP: Logged
FZ Member Posts: 37 From:Anzio, ROME Italy Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 07-19-2001 01:53 PM The game crash using default wad and default script You can make a level based on Karnak and play it as Karnak (if you don't change nothing like the wad) But the game crash while loading.. ..IF I play original karnak NO. It's not W2000... ..maybe!!!! Ah, in italiano, senza le scusanti ma TU sei riuscito a postare! Nessuno ci riesce perchè sul nostro forum è andata in crash la linea Ho risposto ma NON la invia Domani rifaccio il post da capo Ma non ti preoccipare Niente insulti, niente di niente, rispondo e chiudo la cosa SENZA accusare o dire chissa' che...credici PS: Ma ..allora siamo due teste di ca**o????????????????????? EHI! NON l'ho detto io! PPS: NOn ti preoccupare ...non ti puo' esplodere il monitor... ..è successo a me! Ciao! IP: Logged
psiko Member Posts: 454 From:Rome Registered: Mar 2001 | posted 07-19-2001 08:03 PM senti, ascolta.... è il wad... ricordi quando avevo il problema delle flipmap? credevo fossero le flipmap, invece era il wad.... Successivamente mi è successo quello che succede a te: il gioco va in CRASH mentre lo carica.... e io per il tep, anche se ho personalizzato il wad completamente, NON avevo cambiato ancora lo script, quindi usavo il nome di un wad originale che però invece avevo messo in una cartella di sicurezza.... lo script l'ho cambiato la settimana prima che venissi tu da me.... dunque, mentre carica, diciamo che arriva intorno alla metà, un po' prima o un po' dopo... mentra carica, sta preparando la lista degli oggetti che ti farà vedere.... quello che dici in inglese non mi è molto chiaro, ma se crasha MENTRE sta caricando è SOLO il wad, credimi. Ti dico che ne ho passate di tutti i colori.... Prova a fare sta prova, ok? cancella tutti i nemici, qualche altro moveable e prova di nuovo..... per vedere che non è lo script ma il wad, fai come ti ho detto prima in inglese, rinomina il tr4 una volta convertito in qualcosa che lo script ORIGINALE può caricare. E prova anche questo (l'ho provato e da questo ho dedotto che era il wad.... appena l'ho cambiato ha funzionato tutto....): prova a caricare il tuo PRJ, ma digli di caricare un nuovo wad, uno originale e che sai funzioni.... senza salvare, convertilo. Se il gioco lo carica, dammi retta.... cancella un nemico, tutti gli statici che puoi e tutti i moveable anche minimamente inutili..... e ti SCONSIGLIO di usare il SAS per un custom wad.... prima o poi ti accorgi che è lui a crearti qualche altro problema.... ------------------ | |--->> psiko <<---| | DOWNLOAD the TECHNOEGYPTIANS PORTAL http://tombraider.videogame.it/giochi/trle/livelli/tep.zip LAST UPDATE on june 18th. IP: Logged
FZ Member Posts: 37 From:Anzio, ROME Italy Registered: Dec 2000 | posted 07-20-2001 01:16 PM Aaaahhh!! Please! Help me! Am I the only W2000 user????????? It's impossible... Grazie..leggi il post sull'altro forum EHI! NON sarai nero per l'email? Ti ripeto che l'ho fatto per coscienza..non per rinvigorire o accendere focolai... ..e purtroppo NON è il wad..ho provato quelli originali e NON carica...dai! So come fare una prova e capire cosa NON va..ma NON è W2000 (ho le prove) o un wad (che NON ho ritoccato...sai perchè? Perchè prima volevo vedere se funzionava su sto sistema...NO. Ma NON è chiara la cosa!) Ho scritto in English percè magari altri possono cercare di capire il mio prob...appena scrivi HELP si affacciano ..o ti ignorano. Mah..io chiedo, poi chissa'... IP: Logged

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